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nwtv2003 posted:
It's a shame about the news today. You would think they would rather close down Birmingham rather than Nottingham. Shame they don't make more use of Nottingham, an example would be Ministry of Mayhem, this being Carlton's baby you would think it would come from Nottingham, but it comes from Maidstone!



Carlton? thought it was an independant production? If so they can use whatever studio they like, depending on the cost and how close all the production team live

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It is stupid, you would also think that CiTV should come from Nottingham, make use of the facilities. Very bad news indeed.


Still wouldn't be enough work to save the studios though

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So what is going to happen to Carlton's studios? Are they going to be sold off to another broadcaster?


They'll be sold to whoever wants them, there's no other broadcasters who'd want it and such a building is no use to anyone else.

It's more likely to be redeveloped

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It's stupid that Central News East is moving to Birmingham too, shame they can't do sale and leaseback, where Carlton sell the studio and then lease it for the News. They would be forgiven slightly if CNE comes from a small newsroom from Nottingham like what other regions are going to do like Meridian.


It will have a small newsroom in Nottingham - that was announced today. A local news programme can't really exsist without some sort of presence in the region it covers.

Sale & Leaseback is all very well, but if ITV PLC can't make the studios pay, what hope does any other company have?
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fanoftv posted:
I don't see how moving CiTV production from Birmingham would work, as they share the studio with Central News at 6, and they couldn't have two news programmes doing their programmes in the same studio at the same time.


If CiTV is moved (say, to London or whatever) they could build a "temporary-esque" (but soundproof) wall down the middle of the studio! (CNwest on one side, CNeast on t'other side) Wink Rolling Eyes Confused etc

fanoftv posted:
It still begs the question where will a second news operation go to.
At the moment Central News West uses the only spare studio (used for CiTV may 1998- jan 2000) to house their CSO bulletins during GMTV, at 10:55, in the lunchtime news, at 3pm, and in the 10:30pm news.


A (slightly) more sensible suggestion: all CNwest bullitens come from main set, and all CNeast from CSO set (making CNeast rather like AngliaWest).

They do seem hard-pushed to squeeze CNeast into the Brum building. Fair enough that the huge Nottingham site is not needed post-Crossroads, but why not acquire a "potting shed" elsewhere in Nottingham for a news-only, bare-bones EMids operation. An EMids service that's actually based in the EMids - wouldn't that be a novelty! Rolling Eyes
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mark Founding member
I don't think ITV's meat-cleaver approach to regional news will do it any favours in the long run in terms of recruitment (a problem that's been affecting London Tonight). All these cutbacks are really a slap in the face to local journalism so, with the BBC going in the opposite direction and INCREASING its commitment to local news, it's obvious who any self-respecting journalist, producer or editor is going to want to work for.

In terms of Central South, recruitment won't be the only problem. With the BBC beefing up its Oxford coverage, surely now is the time to REINFORCE Central South, not scale it down.
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All this was on the cards when they allowed the merger last year- it won't stop in Nottingham. We know that Granada are selling up in Manchester and moving to a 'purpose built' warehouse, though how a warehouse is purpose built is anyones guess. HTV studios are under threat, we know whats happened to Meridian. Yorkshire will be kept because of emmerdale and Countdown & Tyne Tees won't last long in its present form. There has been a lot of excuses for this, the best is that there is too muxh studio space. There never was before. Perhaps it is to do with the appauling production standards that ITV employ. Why make a quality piece of television in a studio when you can produce some nastly little cheapo programme from a car boot sale.
I don't think its possible for ITV to recover from this - what is more concerning is the governments stratagy on the BBC - A lean mean (proberbly American owned )ITV will not want competition. We are getting an American style supreme court, an American FBI and theres an American poodle in No.10
Worrying isnt it!
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Sir Richard Rotcod
Broadcast posted:

ITV was forced to hold emergency meetings with staff at Central TV yesterday morning to confirm Broadcast’s revelations that 400 jobs would be axed.

Central managing director Ian Squires told staff that the jobs would be stripped out of the company with 200 going from Nottingham and up to 200 from Birmingham. He had planned to make the announcement in the week commencing 8 March.

Squires said the Nottingham studios will be sold off and a small digital studio will be set up in the area to provide regional news bulletins, but all Central East News presentation will move to Birmingham.

The move does not affect the 70 people working in Central’s Abingdon news base. They will continue as normal, keeping both presentation and newsgathering.

The news came as "bombshell" to staff, according to one employee, who added that Squires faced a hostile reception and some difficult questions at yesterday’s meetings in Nottingham at 10.00 and Birmingham at 12.30.

While many in Nottingham were resigned to the fate of the studios, as first revealed by Broadcast earlier this month, staff at Birmingham were visibly shocked. "There was no feeling whatsoever in Birmingham that there were going to be this level of job cuts. It was a massive shock," said one

Squires told staff that the studios in Nottingham, once home to shows from The Price is Right to Crossroads and Peak Practice, had to go as they were no longer profitable, losing around £2m a year. A spokesman added they had hardly made a profit in the last decade.

Squires said: "The business has moved in a different direction since the Nottingham studios were built 20 years ago, with the top drama and entertainment shows more likely to be made on location rather than in studio.

"In 1984, The Price is Right was made in the studios and was the UK's top rating entertainment show. Today, the top performing entertainment show is filmed live in an Australian jungle."

Nevertheless, the unions slammed the cuts. Bectu’s Nigel Mason said: "It's disastrous."

NUJ National Broadcasting Organiser Paul McLaughlin added: "The proposals to close Nottingham studios with the loss of hundreds of jobs will cut right into the heart of the Midlands community.

"In the process a corps of hundreds of highly skilled broadcast workers will be cast asunder. Regional communities deserve a proper broadcasting service, but for Central it seems it’s the shareholders who gain and the viewers who lose. In the long run the shareholders will lose as well because Central will not be a proper competitor to other broadcasters."

ITV will meet with the unions next week.

The forced meetings in Central were a major embarrassment for ITV as they came as some of the company’s most senior executives were enjoying a three-day strategy meeting at London’s five-star Park Lane Hilton hotel, where rooms cost £169 a night.

An ITV spokeswoman admitted that timing was not great but said the meeting had been in for a long time and was by no means a "lig or a jolly". "This is the first time in 50 years that top executives from ITV have come together to map out the future of the company. It’s a very serious strategy meeting," she said.
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Alice NotCooper posted:
fanoftv posted:
I don't see how moving CiTV production from Birmingham would work, as they share the studio with Central News at 6, and they couldn't have two news programmes doing their programmes in the same studio at the same time.


If CiTV is moved (say, to London or whatever) they could build a "temporary-esque" (but soundproof) wall down the middle of the studio! (CNwest on one side, CNeast on t'other side) Wink Rolling Eyes Confused etc

fanoftv posted:
It still begs the question where will a second news operation go to.
At the moment Central News West uses the only spare studio (used for CiTV may 1998- jan 2000) to house their CSO bulletins during GMTV, at 10:55, in the lunchtime news, at 3pm, and in the 10:30pm news.


A (slightly) more sensible suggestion: all CNwest bullitens come from main set, and all CNeast from CSO set (making CNeast rather like AngliaWest).

They do seem hard-pushed to squeeze CNeast into the Brum building. Fair enough that the huge Nottingham site is not needed post-Crossroads, but why not acquire a "potting shed" elsewhere in Nottingham for a news-only, bare-bones EMids operation. An EMids service that's actually based in the EMids - wouldn't that be a novelty! Rolling Eyes


PLAN: CITV goes elsewhere. Wall down the middle of current CN West + CITV studio. Build CN East set. TX area made redundant = new gallery for CN East!
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Westy2
TX MAN posted:
Alice NotCooper posted:
fanoftv posted:
I don't see how moving CiTV production from Birmingham would work, as they share the studio with Central News at 6, and they couldn't have two news programmes doing their programmes in the same studio at the same time.


If CiTV is moved (say, to London or whatever) they could build a "temporary-esque" (but soundproof) wall down the middle of the studio! (CNwest on one side, CNeast on t'other side) Wink Rolling Eyes Confused etc

fanoftv posted:
It still begs the question where will a second news operation go to.
At the moment Central News West uses the only spare studio (used for CiTV may 1998- jan 2000) to house their CSO bulletins during GMTV, at 10:55, in the lunchtime news, at 3pm, and in the 10:30pm news.


A (slightly) more sensible suggestion: all CNwest bullitens come from main set, and all CNeast from CSO set (making CNeast rather like AngliaWest).

They do seem hard-pushed to squeeze CNeast into the Brum building. Fair enough that the huge Nottingham site is not needed post-Crossroads, but why not acquire a "potting shed" elsewhere in Nottingham for a news-only, bare-bones EMids operation. An EMids service that's actually based in the EMids - wouldn't that be a novelty! Rolling Eyes


PLAN: CITV goes elsewhere. Wall down the middle of current CN West + CITV studio. Build CN East set. TX area made redundant = new gallery for CN East!


Is that similar to the Anglia operation?
More shared bulletins maybe?
Hope Birmingham's sorted out it's power problems now


Don't BBC already have a presence in Nottingham(Originally York House, then London Road, providing over the years, versions of EMT, BBC Radio Nottingham, & the Alex Trellinski Late Show on local radio?
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A former member
teejay posted:
All this was on the cards when they allowed the merger last year-


The closure of Nottingham was on the cards for a lot longer than that. Everything was in limbo until after the merger happened
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fanoftv
TX MAN posted:

PLAN: CITV goes elsewhere. Wall down the middle of current CN West + CITV studio. Build CN East set. TX area made redundant = new gallery for CN East!


The studio isn't that big, there are only a couple of steps from the edge of the CiTV set to the Central News podium, sofa & desk.

If they put a wall down the middle of the studio, there wouldn't be enough room for the cameras, and crew to both be at the same time, unless the set's were seriously reduced in size.

The studio was only built to house Central News, but then CiTV was taken back into vision. After a couple of years in vision, somehow CiTV got the main set, and then in 2001, the other side of the studio was used to house Central News, therefore when Central News is on air, the camera crew stand on the CiTV set.
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fanoftv
TX MAN posted:

PLAN: CITV goes elsewhere. Wall down the middle of current CN West + CITV studio. Build CN East set. TX area made redundant = new gallery for CN East!


The studio isn't that big, there are only a couple of steps from the edge of the CiTV set to the Central News podium, sofa & desk.

If they put a wall down the middle of the studio, there wouldn't be enough room for the cameras, and crew to both be at the same time, unless the set's were seriously reduced in size.

The studio was only built to house Central News, but then CiTV was taken back into vision. After a couple of years in vision, somehow CiTV got the main set, and then in 2001, the other side of the studio was used to house Central News, therefore when Central News is on air, the camera crew stand on the CiTV set.

What I was wondering was, when they move ITV Sport and CiTV, would they move the Executives, Producers, Directors, Designers, etc to the new locations, or would they get a whole new lot in?
They would most probably leave any camera crew, floor managers, etc that work on CiTV (as most ITV Sport comes from London Studios, but produced by Central/ISN), to work on Central News East.
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Philip Cobbold
teejay posted:
All this was on the cards when they allowed the merger last year- it won't stop in Nottingham. We know that Granada are selling up in Manchester and moving to a 'purpose built' warehouse, though how a warehouse is purpose built is anyones guess.

Where will Coronation Street move to? They can't very easily move the exterior set, because it is pretty large. Will they just keep Stage One at Granada open, and close the rest of the studio complex?
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nwtv2003
teejay posted:
All this was on the cards when they allowed the merger last year- it won't stop in Nottingham. We know that Granada are selling up in Manchester and moving to a 'purpose built' warehouse, though how a warehouse is purpose built is anyones guess. HTV studios are under threat, we know whats happened to Meridian. Yorkshire will be kept because of emmerdale and Countdown & Tyne Tees won't last long in its present form.


I think ITVplc want to keep Leeds open, it is slightly getting out of date, but they are really useful as they produce programmes which will be here for some time to come, they also produce other programmes, for some reason they do the Coronation Street specials from YTV. Though I think Leeds will stay open as it is the back up if London fails, it also has a huge technical output which Granada have spent millions on, only to insert the ads for Granada, Yorkshire, Tyne Tees and Border, don't fortget they also do the weather from there too for those regions!

I am not 100% sure what they are going to about Quay Street, apparently they are going to move into a big converted warehouse, something which was once part of the Granada Studios Tour which has since closed, but I assume that they will use some of the land there. Though they don't do as much at Manchester as they used to for ITV, but don't forget that the BBC also use the facilites becuase of the 3SixtyMedia arrangement. I don't know if they are demolishing of all it, or if they are keeping some of it, I don't know. Plus they have to have a newsroom too. Though it has been strongly suggested that they move Granada News back to Liverpool as there is an unused Newsroom there and a studio too, which has been empty since the demise of Shop!

Unbeliavbly there was a Tyne Tees programme on ITV1 last night. We just have to face the facts that ITVplc are cutting back in the smaller regions such as Tyne Tees, as they don't make any studio programmes other than North East Tonight, do they?

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