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90s idents return! Split from BBC Two Rebrand and Onwards (April 2014)

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Charlie Wells Moderator
Not sure if this has already been answered but is there any particular reason why one some of the old idents the word 'Subtitle' is much larger than on other idents?
JO
Jonny
Not sure if this has already been answered but is there any particular reason why one some of the old idents the word 'Subtitle' is much larger than on other idents?

Swan and Predator have the ugly larger one, they were the first brought back on Network before someone belatedly realised how massively oversized it was. All the others come with the much neater flag but they haven't bothered to re-edit the aforementioned two.


It's pretty redundant now anyway.
DP
D.Page
I agree, the subtitles flag on Swan and Predator is way too big.

Another thing which I am a little curious about regarding the presentation on Network (and on Wales, come to that) is why they have limited themselves to such a small number of the idents. Am I missing something, or is the process of getting them onto screen simply a case of digging out clean copies and slapping the 50 year logo onto them?

NI, on the other hand, have made a tremendous effort, and have even gone to the trouble of modifying the logo's appearance with some of them to better tailor it to a particular ident. Great attention to detail.
Last edited by D.Page on 2 October 2014 11:38am - 2 times in total
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begleybegley
I agree, the subtitles flag on Swan and Predator is way too big.

Another thing which I am a little curious about regarding the presentation on Network (and on Wales, come to that) is why they have limited themselves to such a small number of the idents.


The presentation team were keen to have idents with as much 'live action' as possible, hence using Car, Swan, Woodpecker and the bizarre Paint Pot as the '2' is not static (bar the end of Predator) unlike the other classic 90s idents where the '2' remained in the middle of the screen throughout.
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buster
On the subject of the Subtitles graphic - is there any need for this anymore? Didn't the BBC hit 100% subtitling (or thereabouts) some time ago? Anyone who uses the service will surely leave it on continuously, rather than being prompted by the ident at the start of the programme.
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Steve in Pudsey
At least one nation has dropped the subtitle bug.
RI
Richard
On Neon, the 2's moving loads. The best idents IMHO are paint and blade. I think the former would work fine (as it does in NI) as there's lots of movement, just not from the 2, but blade is probably not going to make a come-back.
BA
bilky asko
On Neon, the 2's moving loads.


The 2 is completely stationary in Neon:

:-(
A former member
Mayabe he's thinking of this one:



I get the feeling both are not used due to the fact neither is colourful enough,
MI
Michael
See this is what happens when modern attitudes about design (which have produced some of the dourest, uninteresting, generic idents in our time) are applied to historical classics.
SA
salfordjohn
I don't understand the point being made about the paint pot ident on this thread.. can someone explain it again please?
MI
Michael
I don't understand the point being made about the paint pot ident on this thread.. can someone explain it again please?


Without the original Paint ident, the Paint Pot ident loses its context for anyone who hasn't seen / doesn't recall the original set of idents.

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