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nodnirG kraM
I assume that Southampton is the next backup after LDN then .. where would the feed come from if both ST and LDN failed?
NG
noggin
Founding member
Hmm... BBC LDN at 2225 last night had terrible sound problems, with the titles music carrying on loudly, underneath a very quiet presenter for the opening link. Wonder if they had a similar problem this morning.
As for the backups, Southampton is the first backup for London, and in the past, Norwich was the backup for Southampton, should both Elstree and Southampton have failed. However when both Elstree and Southampton failed (neither had presenters one monday morning...) during Breakfast about 6 years ago, the regional opt was cancelled, rather than Norwich being used. Southampton and Norwich both border the BBC London region, and so make some sense editorially as a replacement.
Both Southampton and Norwich have dedicated video links to London, which are not normally used for other things, as they are not normally used to interlink other regions. Birmingham also has links directly to London, but these are also sometimes used to get stuff from Manchester, Belfast, Glasgow, Leeds, Newcastle etc. down to London, so are less easy to quickly request, as they may be in use for other things.
As for the backups, Southampton is the first backup for London, and in the past, Norwich was the backup for Southampton, should both Elstree and Southampton have failed. However when both Elstree and Southampton failed (neither had presenters one monday morning...) during Breakfast about 6 years ago, the regional opt was cancelled, rather than Norwich being used. Southampton and Norwich both border the BBC London region, and so make some sense editorially as a replacement.
Both Southampton and Norwich have dedicated video links to London, which are not normally used for other things, as they are not normally used to interlink other regions. Birmingham also has links directly to London, but these are also sometimes used to get stuff from Manchester, Belfast, Glasgow, Leeds, Newcastle etc. down to London, so are less easy to quickly request, as they may be in use for other things.
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Larry Scutta
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moss on 10:18 am on Feb. 7, 2002
Maybe Midlands Today? After all, Birmingham is the network backup, isn't it?
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nodnirG kraM on 10:13 am on Feb. 7, 2002
I assume that Southampton is the next backup after LDN then .. where would the feed come from if both ST and LDN failed?
I assume that Southampton is the next backup after LDN then .. where would the feed come from if both ST and LDN failed?
Maybe Midlands Today? After all, Birmingham is the network backup, isn't it?
It's not network backup, but the place where programmes come from if TV Centre is evacuated... but only after the automation at TVC runs out... and only if there are people at Pebble Mill who can playout programmes (the TVC guys have to leg it up the M40).
Nothing to do with which opt is broadcast, which comes through a studio.
There is a new option now - South East Today
MO
I get you - pretty stupid thing for me to say really.
moss
Founding member
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Larry Scutta on 11:34 pm on Feb. 7, 2002
It's not network backup, but the place where programmes come from if TV Centre is evacuated... but only after the automation at TVC runs out... and only if there are people at Pebble Mill who can playout programmes (the TVC guys have to leg it up the M40).
Nothing to do with which opt is broadcast, which comes through a studio.
There is a new option now - South East Today
It's not network backup, but the place where programmes come from if TV Centre is evacuated... but only after the automation at TVC runs out... and only if there are people at Pebble Mill who can playout programmes (the TVC guys have to leg it up the M40).
Nothing to do with which opt is broadcast, which comes through a studio.
There is a new option now - South East Today
I get you - pretty stupid thing for me to say really.
BB
bbcworld2001
I know this may seem a silly question, but can news centre workers, or gallery staff in TV Centre see all of the seperate reigons so they know when its time to opt back in, or do TVC send a mesage to the reigons telling them 'its time to opt in'
Paul
Paul
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Ben
Founding member
Just a note about South East Today, it's actually like another South Today, alot of staff transfered from South Today and can still be seen doing the reports. Regional Programmes are the programmes that BBC South has always seen, and are all finished in Southampton (Southern Eye is edited at both locations depending on where the report is from.)
NG
Works the other way round Paul. All the regions can see the Network (i.e. BBC London, though it was UK Today before). The network presentation gallery, or news gallery depending on the opt, time the duration of the opt (always agreed in advance with all the regions), and all the regions can hear the talkback from London (either presentation or news)
The pres/news director counts the regions to the beginning and end of the opt, and over talkback says 'Opt-out, opt-out' or 'Opt-in, Opt-in' The regions have to cut away from network when the director calls opt-out, or else BBC London will go out, and have to wait for the network trail, or national news titles to be cut to Network (shortly after which the director will say 'Opt-in, Opt-in'.)
Most regional directors will wait to see the titles/trail on network before cutting back - just in case the national/pres director is a second or so out with the opt call...
So the News centre doesn't need to see any of the regions, though often they can, instead the regions need to watch and listen to London.
noggin
Founding member
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bbcworld2001 on 6:51 pm on Feb. 8, 2002
I know this may seem a silly question, but can news centre workers, or gallery staff in TV Centre see all of the seperate reigons so they know when its time to opt back in, or do TVC send a mesage to the reigons telling them 'its time to opt in'
Paul
I know this may seem a silly question, but can news centre workers, or gallery staff in TV Centre see all of the seperate reigons so they know when its time to opt back in, or do TVC send a mesage to the reigons telling them 'its time to opt in'
Paul
Works the other way round Paul. All the regions can see the Network (i.e. BBC London, though it was UK Today before). The network presentation gallery, or news gallery depending on the opt, time the duration of the opt (always agreed in advance with all the regions), and all the regions can hear the talkback from London (either presentation or news)
The pres/news director counts the regions to the beginning and end of the opt, and over talkback says 'Opt-out, opt-out' or 'Opt-in, Opt-in' The regions have to cut away from network when the director calls opt-out, or else BBC London will go out, and have to wait for the network trail, or national news titles to be cut to Network (shortly after which the director will say 'Opt-in, Opt-in'.)
Most regional directors will wait to see the titles/trail on network before cutting back - just in case the national/pres director is a second or so out with the opt call...
So the News centre doesn't need to see any of the regions, though often they can, instead the regions need to watch and listen to London.
NG
Think Larry was referring to their being another region which could be a sensible backup for BBC London and BBC South. BBC South East borders both BBC South and BBC London regions - so potentially overlaps editorially more than BBC East from Norwich (which has traditionally been the backup-backup)
noggin
Founding member
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Katherine on 8:36 pm on Feb. 8, 2002
Funny - I can't see that option on my Sky list... still the five initial options...
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Larry Scutta on 11:34 pm on Feb. 7, 2002
There is a new option now - South East Today
There is a new option now - South East Today
Funny - I can't see that option on my Sky list... still the five initial options...
Think Larry was referring to their being another region which could be a sensible backup for BBC London and BBC South. BBC South East borders both BBC South and BBC London regions - so potentially overlaps editorially more than BBC East from Norwich (which has traditionally been the backup-backup)