DO
Who do you think the retweet came from?
1 retweet?! F*ck me, I feel sorry for the social media manager.
Who do you think the retweet came from?
DB
Who do you think the retweet came from?
1 retweet?! F*ck me, I feel sorry for the social media manager.
Who do you think the retweet came from?
MO
The Paris Flooding coverage on BFM Paris is brilliant. Too bad London Live is rubbish and never really amounted to much. Waste of Space. Really highlights the need for such a channel in major city. A local channel can really get into the minutia of the city during a such a crisis. Closures and shelters and things that would be irrelevant for a National audience. In addition to the Metro Line status and traffic. They also have weather temps for parts of the metro area. As well the flood stage levels of the Seine alternating at the bottom of the screen. Missed opportunity IMO. Just sayin'
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-bfm-paris/
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-bfm-paris/
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 27 January 2018 12:16am
BA
"Just sayin'", for the umpteenth time.
What's the betting that the channel only exists because of the money raised by the parent channel, whose thirst for viewing figures meant being censured for massive over-representation of far right parties and political figures, and a heavy focus on sensationalised crime reporting.
Sky News are hardly going to launch a London channel, because they're losing money hand over fist - so where are you going to get someone to operate such a channel?
The Paris Flooding coverage on BFM Paris is brilliant. Too bad London Live is rubbish and never really amounted to much. Waste of Space. Really highlights the need for such a channel in major city. A local channel can really get into the minutia of the city during a such a crisis. Closures and shelters and things that would be irrelevant for a National audience. In addition to the Metro Line status and traffic. They also have weather temps for parts of the metro area. As well the flood stage levels of the Seine alternating at the bottom of the screen. Missed opportunity IMO. Just sayin'
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-bfm-paris/
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-bfm-paris/
"Just sayin'", for the umpteenth time.
What's the betting that the channel only exists because of the money raised by the parent channel, whose thirst for viewing figures meant being censured for massive over-representation of far right parties and political figures, and a heavy focus on sensationalised crime reporting.
Sky News are hardly going to launch a London channel, because they're losing money hand over fist - so where are you going to get someone to operate such a channel?
WW
What's the betting that the channel only exists because of the money raised by the parent channel, whose thirst for viewing figures meant being censured for massive over-representation of far right parties and political figures, and a heavy focus on sensationalised crime reporting.
But even if their coverage sometimes recalls a TV version of a tabloid newspaper, BFMTV's ratings are impressive -- they're quite likely the highest-rated news channel in Europe. And since they're a purely commercial, market-driven operation (and not a prestige vehicle like Sky News), some sensationalism is to be expected.
For all its accomplishments, if Sky News is still losing money 29 years after its founding, it must be doing something wrong. CNN was massively profitable by that stage in its history. Granted, the U.S. is a considerably bigger market, but because CNN is a truly global operation, its costs have always been much higher. And many news channels in far smaller markets do at least break even. I'd be surprised if BFMTV's ratings success hasn't already translated into profits.
What's the betting that the channel only exists because of the money raised by the parent channel, whose thirst for viewing figures meant being censured for massive over-representation of far right parties and political figures, and a heavy focus on sensationalised crime reporting.
But even if their coverage sometimes recalls a TV version of a tabloid newspaper, BFMTV's ratings are impressive -- they're quite likely the highest-rated news channel in Europe. And since they're a purely commercial, market-driven operation (and not a prestige vehicle like Sky News), some sensationalism is to be expected.
Sky News are hardly going to launch a London channel, because they're losing money hand over fist - so where are you going to get someone to operate such a channel?
For all its accomplishments, if Sky News is still losing money 29 years after its founding, it must be doing something wrong. CNN was massively profitable by that stage in its history. Granted, the U.S. is a considerably bigger market, but because CNN is a truly global operation, its costs have always been much higher. And many news channels in far smaller markets do at least break even. I'd be surprised if BFMTV's ratings success hasn't already translated into profits.
Last edited by WW Update on 27 January 2018 2:43am - 7 times in total
LL
London Lite
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Worth remembering that BFMTV isn't a 24 hour operation. They're live until midnight and then repeat the 11pm hour until 4am. Also BFMTV Paris is largely pre-recorded, but the information on screen is constantly updated.
BFMTV ironically reminds me of how Sky News used to be during the day with double headed presentation with a slightly sensationalist agenda in it's presentation.
Considering how the French market supports four rolling news channels (BFMTV, CNEWS, LCI and the PSB Franceinfo), it's an impressive feat how NextRadioTV have maintained such a market share in what is more of a competitive market than the UK.
Going back to London Live however, I just can't see how it'd work unless there's a bottomless pit to allow Sky News or ITN under contract to operate a similar BFM Paris style service in the capital.
BFMTV ironically reminds me of how Sky News used to be during the day with double headed presentation with a slightly sensationalist agenda in it's presentation.
Considering how the French market supports four rolling news channels (BFMTV, CNEWS, LCI and the PSB Franceinfo), it's an impressive feat how NextRadioTV have maintained such a market share in what is more of a competitive market than the UK.
Going back to London Live however, I just can't see how it'd work unless there's a bottomless pit to allow Sky News or ITN under contract to operate a similar BFM Paris style service in the capital.
MO
Well aware of the that. Information on screen is still updated across the wee hours of the night.
SkyNews or ITN? Clearly they both have proven they are incapable of running a profitable 24hr news/information channel. Neither of them even knows what format is watchable. Clearly the tight 25-30 min wheel doesnt work anymore and SkyNews hasnt learned that. Its as wobbly as 3-legged chair. Hence never making money. Just sayin' thats a fact.
BFMTV and NEXTRADIOTV figured out a format in a very tight commercial market that works. Additionally at the end of last year they launched a news and information channel for the Toulouse region in which they own a 20% stake. Something must be working.
https://viaoccitanie.tv/direct-tv/
SkyNews or ITN? Clearly they both have proven they are incapable of running a profitable 24hr news/information channel. Neither of them even knows what format is watchable. Clearly the tight 25-30 min wheel doesnt work anymore and SkyNews hasnt learned that. Its as wobbly as 3-legged chair. Hence never making money. Just sayin' thats a fact.
BFMTV and NEXTRADIOTV figured out a format in a very tight commercial market that works. Additionally at the end of last year they launched a news and information channel for the Toulouse region in which they own a 20% stake. Something must be working.
https://viaoccitanie.tv/direct-tv/
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 27 January 2018 3:40am - 3 times in total
BR
I don't think any 24 hour news channel is actually live 24 hours a day though.
Worth remembering that BFMTV isn't a 24 hour operation. They're live until midnight and then repeat the 11pm hour until 4am. Also BFMTV Paris is largely pre-recorded, but the information on screen is constantly updated.
I don't think any 24 hour news channel is actually live 24 hours a day though.
NG
I don't think any 24 hour news channel is actually live 24 hours a day though.
No - but many are live for their news portions and only use pre-recorded feature programmes for back half-hour output at off-peak times.
BBC World News and the BBC News Channel don't repeat news bulletins other than in emergencies, or because of technical difficulties. (They certainly aren't scheduled)
noggin
Founding member
Worth remembering that BFMTV isn't a 24 hour operation. They're live until midnight and then repeat the 11pm hour until 4am. Also BFMTV Paris is largely pre-recorded, but the information on screen is constantly updated.
I don't think any 24 hour news channel is actually live 24 hours a day though.
No - but many are live for their news portions and only use pre-recorded feature programmes for back half-hour output at off-peak times.
BBC World News and the BBC News Channel don't repeat news bulletins other than in emergencies, or because of technical difficulties. (They certainly aren't scheduled)
SD
If London were to ever have a 24 hour news channel or even a 5.5 hour news channel it wouldn't be London Live. They don't give a s**t about local news for London - they never have done.
In nearly 4 years on air, news programming has only ever made it into the top ten on a handful of occasions - the best ratings ever were in the short-lived Evening News/Evening Show era of November '14 to March '15, when they managed to get 50,000 viewers to tune in - once.
News takes time to find an audience, but instead of building theirs, London Live have continuously shifted timings, changed formats and ultimately cut back so much, the crap they're churning out now barely resembles news.
In nearly 4 years on air, news programming has only ever made it into the top ten on a handful of occasions - the best ratings ever were in the short-lived Evening News/Evening Show era of November '14 to March '15, when they managed to get 50,000 viewers to tune in - once.
News takes time to find an audience, but instead of building theirs, London Live have continuously shifted timings, changed formats and ultimately cut back so much, the crap they're churning out now barely resembles news.
IS
It did have a 24 hour news channel once:
If London were to ever have a 24 hour news channel or even a 5.5 hour news channel it wouldn't be London Live. .
It did have a 24 hour news channel once: