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JO
Jon
She is also read by 3 million readers in the Sun every week. Still think she's not dangerous?

There would just be some other rent-a-gob with abhorrent right wing views if it were not Katie, and they might just be more intelligent and better at putting an argument together, at least there is some stigma attached in agreeing with Katie so people are going to be more cautious before taking her views on board.
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A former member
For a min, I thought you were taking about Ann Diamond Wink

Lest face facts here 3million out 300million is not alot, come to think about 200'000 out of nearly 60million is not alot. Alot of people only listen in or read what the silly cow says or writes to either get a laugh or highly disagree.

People are entitled to their views including the left wingers.
BA
bilky asko
Jon posted:
I imagine anyone who is opposing Katie Hopkins in a debate ends up rubbing their hands in glee. It's difficult to lose. The woman has so little credibility she's going to damage whatever part of the devide she's on. So if you think Hopkins is dangerous as she represents a different view to you, just be glad it's her and not someone people would take seriously.


Over 3 million people in America take Fox News seriously, and millions more take extreme right wing radio talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh seriously. About 200,000 in this country take Fox News seriously. You seriously believe that she is not dangerous, because even 200,000 people could actually believe her? She is also read by 3 million readers in the Sun every week. Still think she's not dangerous?


People like Alex Jones and David Icke hold far more extreme/insane views, and they have a much bigger captive audience. The former has been on the BBC less than a year ago.
JO
Jon

People like Alex Jones and David Icke hold far more extreme/insane views, and they have a much bigger captive audience. The former has been on the BBC less than a year ago.

Yes, and those people do have dedicated followings. I doubt even those who agree with Hopkins have much respect for her and the way she presents her arguments.
CI
cityprod
Jon posted:
There would just be some other rent-a-gob with abhorrent right wing views if it were not Katie,


And you think that's acceptable?

Quote:
and they might just be more intelligent and better at putting an argument together, at least there is some stigma attached in agreeing with Katie so people are going to be more cautious before taking her views on board.


Just like there was a stigma attached to Sarah Palin, and that never stopped Fox News or any of the sheeple that believe everything they 'report'.

There is no stigma attached to believing for these right-wing sheeple. There's more stigma attached to trusting the BBC for them, not someone like Katie Hopkins.
CI
cityprod
Jon posted:
I imagine anyone who is opposing Katie Hopkins in a debate ends up rubbing their hands in glee. It's difficult to lose. The woman has so little credibility she's going to damage whatever part of the devide she's on. So if you think Hopkins is dangerous as she represents a different view to you, just be glad it's her and not someone people would take seriously.


Over 3 million people in America take Fox News seriously, and millions more take extreme right wing radio talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh seriously. About 200,000 in this country take Fox News seriously. You seriously believe that she is not dangerous, because even 200,000 people could actually believe her? She is also read by 3 million readers in the Sun every week. Still think she's not dangerous?


People like Alex Jones and David Icke hold far more extreme/insane views, and they have a much bigger captive audience. The former has been on the BBC less than a year ago.


David Icke's views are nowhere near as extreme as Alex Jones, who in terms of impact in the radio talk show scene, is still some way behind Rush Limbaugh.
BA
bilky asko
Jon posted:
There would just be some other rent-a-gob with abhorrent right wing views if it were not Katie,


And you think that's acceptable?

Quote:
and they might just be more intelligent and better at putting an argument together, at least there is some stigma attached in agreeing with Katie so people are going to be more cautious before taking her views on board.


Just like there was a stigma attached to Sarah Palin, and that never stopped Fox News or any of the sheeple that believe everything they 'report'.

There is no stigma attached to believing for these right-wing sheeple. There's more stigma attached to trusting the BBC for them, not someone like Katie Hopkins.


I'm not sure a high profile member of a major political party and a former Apprentice contestant are comparable.

David Icke's views are nowhere near as extreme as Alex Jones, who in terms of impact in the radio talk show scene, is still some way behind Rush Limbaugh.


Eh? So the man who believes in the literally reptilian royal family has less extreme views than Alex Jones (who, despite his views, has expressed doubts over reptilians, even going as far as saying it's untrue)?
JO
Jon
David Icke's views are nowhere near as extreme as Alex Jones, who in terms of impact in the radio talk show scene, is still some way behind Rush Limbaugh.

Doesn't David Icke believe the royal family are shape shifting reptiles? ((Edit) Just noticed Bilky_Asko made much the same point.)

That's pretty extreme. What you really mean is you personally have more time for Icke.

Extreme views are clearly allowed as long as cityprod also shares those views.

The point is broadcaster has a responsibility to represent all sides of the argument, just be thankful they've chosen to go with a hated moron.
Last edited by Jon on 19 February 2014 7:56pm
EL
elmarko
Don't make this about left vs right. It's about how debates are conducted. I'm trying not to be political. More making a point about the power of the media.
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A former member
OH come are we really have this debate? what do people expect now a days especial with Ch5, a channel owned by the Daily express..... Channel 4 is no better. ITV might have done a better job.
JO
Jon
Don't make this about left vs right.

But I'd say Channel 5 are clearly attempting to create an entertainment format, rather than a debate here given the title of the show.
CI
cityprod
Jon posted:
There would just be some other rent-a-gob with abhorrent right wing views if it were not Katie,


And you think that's acceptable?

Quote:
and they might just be more intelligent and better at putting an argument together, at least there is some stigma attached in agreeing with Katie so people are going to be more cautious before taking her views on board.


Just like there was a stigma attached to Sarah Palin, and that never stopped Fox News or any of the sheeple that believe everything they 'report'.

There is no stigma attached to believing for these right-wing sheeple. There's more stigma attached to trusting the BBC for them, not someone like Katie Hopkins.


I'm not sure a high profile member of a major political party and a former Apprentice contestant are comparable.


A high profile member of a political party? Palin was only picked for her looks by John McCain, and she never even served out a full term as the Governor of Alaska. Her 'high profile' pretty much ended with Obama's election in 2008. After that, she became a fixture on Fox News. I think that says it all. These days, her profile is pretty much non-existant, just as Katie Hopkins will be when broadcasters get bored of her.

David Icke's views are nowhere near as extreme as Alex Jones, who in terms of impact in the radio talk show scene, is still some way behind Rush Limbaugh.


Quote:
Eh? So the man who believes in the literally reptilian royal family has less extreme views than Alex Jones (who, despite his views, has expressed doubts over reptilians, even going as far as saying it's untrue)?


I think there's a lot of misconceptions about David Icke. He talks about reptilian bloodlines, rather than insinuating the Royal Family are the same breed that invaded the Earth in the V mini series. I've taken the time to listen to some of his stuff, and whilst some of it is pretty crazy, it's not extremist in the same way that someone like Katie Hopkins is a political extremist, or Glenn Greenwald. And a little of what David Icke says does make some sense. Alex Jones said that Obama controlled the weather. I mean how extreme is that? Alex Jones doesn't make sense. Neither does Rush Limbaugh or Katie Hopkins. But there's always somebody more prepared to believe them, than something that comes out of the mainstream media.

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