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BBC News Channel General Discussion

(November 2013)

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Critique
They need to sort out the Media Cafe windows, blinds or something need to be put in place. When the guest is on shot you can see people waving in the background from the cafe behind the trundle cam.

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I'd say that's a bit of a non-issue really, and certainly not something that is particularly noticeable. I'm sure Mail Online will report on it like they did when everything first moved to Broadcasting House and they moaned that the newsroom had people with carrier bags in sometimes etc, but overall I can't imagine the BBC will be too worried.

As for Outside Source itself, it's generally okay/good, with the breakdowns of the detail behind stories quite nice, although there are some weird uses of the touchscreen - does the presenter really need to cue reports himself? Also there are too many Twitter accounts and hashtags to keep up with (I'm fairly sure the show started by advertising three different Twitter accounts to engage with, and unlike Business Live the opt-out point for BBC World did not look good at all. All the graphics wiped off and there was a proper break sting, before cutting back to the set and carrying on. The report that the presenter then linked to was quite odd and short, as if it was a cut-down version to plug a gap. Following this there was then another sting and a 'welcome back' sequence, which oddly featured what looked like the graphics put on the close of BBC World News bulletin, with the box in the bottom left corner and 'bbc.com/news' in the bottom right.

EDIT: The BBC News boxes seem to be intentional, with it showing what different parts of the BBC are reporting on. The box changed to BBC Bangla and BBC World Service afterwards when talking about they were reporting on. 'bbc.com/news' stayed constant in the bottom right, despite being the wrong URL for the UK.
Last edited by Critique on 1 June 2015 9:29pm
HB
HarryB
New tweaked closing music for the 9:25 ending.

A new weather bulletin to show the worlds weather. But not broadcast on BBC World.

Edit: UK weather followed.

Weather of the week ahead still continues at 9:55
Last edited by HarryB on 1 June 2015 9:33pm
CR
Critique
I see Ros Atkins still ends bulletins with 'talk to you in a minute' before walking off, which continues to be a weird way of ending a programme.
BM
BenMacDonald
I have to agree it can be rather distracting at times! If the BBC still want to have an open feel to the public at Broadcasting House then they should cover up the next window like the other two and put a screen in the corner of the Media Cafe with a feed from the Trundle (I think it's that camera) like this
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to give a 'Behind the Scenes' feel. Suppose it would only be possible when it is not being used but they could put in another small camera if they think this way would be better.
HB
HarryB
A report on the NC finished a tad early which just left about a 5 second still of the beginning of the sting waiting for World to opt back following the break. Some NC viewers must wonder what is going on at these points.

Also I don't like the way the ticker has to be off screen just to show the BBC box, but again I understand its to make it look neat without the graphics clashing.

I quite like the 'coming up' piece after the 9:45 sting where Ros goes through what is coming up on WNA on World and also what is coming up for UK viewers on News at Ten.
LX
lxflyer
I think that for people watching on the News Channel, you may take a little time to get used to the format (Ros using the screen and the switch to the small table on set).

It took me a while too.

But I'd point out that this is exactly what those of us fortunate to have access to BBC World have been watching since last year - the format is precisely the same.

I've watched the programme most days, and I never once noticed the window at the media café before someone mentioned it here.
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Worzel
Might seem like a strange question. Why do the weather team wear the Madonna Mics at the balcony screen, yet Ros Atkins is using a standard tie clip one.
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dosxuk
Might seem like a strange question. Why do the weather team wear the Madonna Mics at the balcony screen, yet Ros Atkins is using a standard tie clip one.


I'd hazard a guess at it being because Ros is running through a Gallery with a proper sound desk, and with a production team and rehersal time, while the weather team are effectively self op - the "madonna" mics will pretty much always give you a decent audio level in noisy environments, where as the lapel mics will need setting up properly in the same conditions.
LX
lxflyer
Might seem like a strange question. Why do the weather team wear the Madonna Mics at the balcony screen, yet Ros Atkins is using a standard tie clip one.


The whole concept behind Outside Source both on BBC World Service radio (11 am BST), where it is presented from the floor of the newsroom rather than in a studio, and on TV, where it is presented from the balcony, is that you can see and hear that it is coming from the newsroom. Rather than being a "clean" production like the weather.

I suspect that the movement wouldn't suit a Madonna mic either.
AS
Asa Admin
Lovely background to Business Live. Interesting to see the World News references (albeit briefly by accident in the tickers case). Plugging bbc.com was interesting too, can't think of that intentionally happening before? Wonder if it goes against any previous guidelines about not confusing viewers? Although if it just redirects to co.uk then I guess it doesn't matter.

The only other thing was the use of the tablet to show off some other articles, complete with each site's own banner adverts. Thought that would be a bit of a no-no for us in the UK?
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i-lied
About Outside Source, since the inception of the TV programme there has always been the look at the World Service language services. About the url, it is a non-issue. The same link is used with the overnight service but I doubt many viewers realise that it is 'wrong' and if the site is being accessed from the UK the link still works but they have to cater for where the majority need it and only the UK don't use that link.

About the Nationals, is there a date for when the regional bulletins return to the pre-election routine?
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Worzel
It's good to see some presentation from the newsroom itself. Wink Its like chalk and cheese, some will like it (like me) others will find it distracting.

Good break down of stories and use of the touchscreen.

The ticker and DOG going off and on screen at the 21:15 and 21:45 junctions was quite distracting. Can't they ditch the Box logo on the stings and leave the ticker/DOG on screen for the World opt out/UK filler.

Although its not completely suited for a UK domestic audience on the NC, it's something different and a nice addition to the 9pm hour and means we see less of studio A.

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