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BBC North West Tonight

(January 2009)

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IM
its me
For most of the 6.55 bulletin this morning we got BBC London.

31 days later

JO
jonnyredpants
When is Tony Livesey going to have a shave, wear a tie and stop slouching. He seems like a good presenter but he appears very scruffy on screen.
JO
jonnyredpants
Watching North West Tonight I noticed several items with old stock footage. None of the stock footage used was captioned as library or stock. Doesn't the BBC need to caption these for compliance?
MW
Mike W
Watching North West Tonight I noticed several items with old stock footage. None of the stock footage used was captioned as library or stock. Doesn't the BBC need to caption these for compliance?


No, the stock footage is used to illustrate a story they have no shots for yet.

In a similar way BBC Midlands always use the same shots of Bournville for Cadbury's news.

33 days later

IM
its me
Charlotte Leeming with the 10.25 bulletin again tonight.

I notice there's quite a list of presenters of the bulletins these days. I've noticed Radio Lancahsire's Graham Liver and Merseyside reporter Andy Gill taking the presenter's chair over recent weeks.

Also, has anyonce notice the lit (white) panels under the projector screens are often unlit during the headline opts?
ST
South Today
Stuart Pollitt from Border's Lookaround now has joined NWT as a sports reporter.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Charlotte Leeming with the 10.25 bulletin again tonight.

I notice there's quite a list of presenters of the bulletins these days. I've noticed Radio Lancahsire's Graham Liver and Merseyside reporter Andy Gill taking the presenter's chair over recent weeks.


I hadn't realised Charlotte Leeming had defected from Look North.

Graham Liver used to present Look North Saturday regularly.
TV
TVN
Jayne Barrett will be off on leave again soon, according to the GB newsletter
NG
noggin Founding member
Watching North West Tonight I noticed several items with old stock footage. None of the stock footage used was captioned as library or stock. Doesn't the BBC need to caption these for compliance?


No - if they did that almost every package you saw on any news bulletin would be covered with the captions.

You usually only use a Library Pictures caption where the pictures used would paint an incorrect interpretation of the story if you didn't know they were archive. So you would caption archive shots of a location prior to it being massively damaged by flood, hurricane, bomb etc., or where you are using shots of someone prior to them being injured, arrested etc. or in a situation they wouldn't be in now.

So say a bomb goes off in an Egyptian resort and the only shots you have of the location are from "Holiday 99" - then you would obviously use a "Library Pictures" caption - as the shots you are featuring don't reflect the current situation. However if you were reporting on a town council story and used the (oh so inspiring) library shots of the town hall that were shot two years ago, then there isn't really a need to Library Pictures caption them as the scene shown (give or take sunshine, leaves on trees etc.) hasn't really changed - and not having one doesn't alter the audiences perception of the story in the same way. It's a judgement that is easy to make in most cases - but not all.

If you are just using shots of a hospital, town hall, court etc. that were shot a while ago, but in a generic sense, then there is no real need to aston them as archive, as you aren't painting a misleading picture by not acknowledging that they are archive.

(Though some bits of frequently used archive become too well known and have to be 'retired'. The wobbly BSE cow is one well known one that the BBC stopped using - mostly - and most regional breakfast bulletins have 'well loved' OOVs of local hospitals where the same ambulances have drawn up outside for years... Though most regions have at least re-shot them in 16:9...)

62 days later

CH
chris
We got a "sneak preview" of Salford tonight. Kate Simms (I think), looking around the new BBC building, stood in the corner of a what looked like a corridor and said "this is exactly where the North West Tonight studio will be". I do hope she meant the building rather than where she was standing. To go from a relatively large, proper studio in Broadcasting House in Manchester to a small corner of a corridor would be awful.
AB
ashley b Founding member
To me she actually meant it, as she said "in what will be the North West Tonight Studio".

Captures of the report coming soon by the way...
MW
Mike W
chris posted:
We got a "sneak preview" of Salford tonight. Kate Simms (I think), looking around the new BBC building, stood in the corner of a what looked like a corridor and said "this is exactly where the North West Tonight studio will be". I do hope she meant the building rather than where she was standing. To go from a relatively large, proper studio in Broadcasting House in Manchester to a small corner of a corridor would be awful.


Hey, This could be a repeat of MT's 2004 move. It would be a shame for NWT to lose all of it's space. It utilises it well, IMO and I can't see them operating in a space smaller than my airing cupboard.

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